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		<title>Comment on Commenting on a random blog by mynym</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, I&#039;ve commented on two blogs this month and each time the glaringly provincial Darwinist has censored me.  Apparently they have nothing to say.

It&#039;s actually consistent given that Darwinian creation myths are an attack on all language and all symbols and signs of design.

I can&#039;t find people any more ignorant who have a fetish for science/knowledge.  As Karl Kraus said of another form of pseudo-science, they are the disease that they purport to cure.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2852&#039;,&#039;mynym&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2852&#039;,&#039;mynym&#039;,&#039;Huh, I\&#039;ve commented on two blogs this month and each time the glaringly provincial Darwinist has censored me.  Apparently they have nothing to say.\r\n\r\nIt\&#039;s actually consistent given that Darwinian creation myths are an attack on all language and all symbols and signs of design.\r\n\r\nI can\&#039;t find people any more ignorant who have a fetish for science\/knowledge.  As Karl Kraus said of another form of pseudo-science, they are the disease that they purport to cure.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, I&#8217;ve commented on two blogs this month and each time the glaringly provincial Darwinist has censored me.  Apparently they have nothing to say.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually consistent given that Darwinian creation myths are an attack on all language and all symbols and signs of design.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find people any more ignorant who have a fetish for science/knowledge.  As Karl Kraus said of another form of pseudo-science, they are the disease that they purport to cure.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2852','mynym'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2852','mynym','Huh, I\'ve commented on two blogs this month and each time the glaringly provincial Darwinist has censored me.  Apparently they have nothing to say.\r\n\r\nIt\'s actually consistent given that Darwinian creation myths are an attack on all language and all symbols and signs of design.\r\n\r\nI can\'t find people any more ignorant who have a fetish for science\/knowledge.  As Karl Kraus said of another form of pseudo-science, they are the disease that they purport to cure.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Commenting on a random blog by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Yet Darwinians always seem to argue that “science” will come to an end if that idea is not censored.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Apparently so, seeing as you&#8217;ve just been censored over there&#8230;!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2851','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2851','Mike','&lt;i&gt;\&quot;Yet Darwinians always seem to argue that &acirc;science&acirc; will come to an end if that idea is not censored.\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nApparently so, seeing as you\'ve just been censored over there...!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Commenting on a random blog by mynym</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if that were true one would be left wondering what impact awareness of objective reality has on natural selection itself, as well as at what point in a mythological past of that sort did purely blind and ignorant processes no longer apply.  And wouldn&#039;t that be the mythological end of any supposed science/knowledge that must always explain things in terms of blind, mechanistic processes? 

Ironically it seems to me that admitting that knowledge can have an impact on matter is the beginning of science, not the end of it.  Yet Darwinians always seem to argue that &quot;science&quot; will come to an end if that idea is not censored.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2850&#039;,&#039;mynym&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2850&#039;,&#039;mynym&#039;,&#039;Even if that were true one would be left wondering what impact awareness of objective reality has on natural selection itself, as well as at what point in a mythological past of that sort did purely blind and ignorant processes no longer apply.  And wouldn\&#039;t that be the mythological end of any supposed science\/knowledge that must always explain things in terms of blind, mechanistic processes? \r\n\r\nIronically it seems to me that admitting that knowledge can have an impact on matter is the beginning of science, not the end of it.  Yet Darwinians always seem to argue that \&quot;science\&quot; will come to an end if that idea is not censored.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if that were true one would be left wondering what impact awareness of objective reality has on natural selection itself, as well as at what point in a mythological past of that sort did purely blind and ignorant processes no longer apply.  And wouldn&#8217;t that be the mythological end of any supposed science/knowledge that must always explain things in terms of blind, mechanistic processes? </p>
<p>Ironically it seems to me that admitting that knowledge can have an impact on matter is the beginning of science, not the end of it.  Yet Darwinians always seem to argue that &#8220;science&#8221; will come to an end if that idea is not censored.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2850','mynym'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2850','mynym','Even if that were true one would be left wondering what impact awareness of objective reality has on natural selection itself, as well as at what point in a mythological past of that sort did purely blind and ignorant processes no longer apply.  And wouldn\'t that be the mythological end of any supposed science\/knowledge that must always explain things in terms of blind, mechanistic processes? \r\n\r\nIronically it seems to me that admitting that knowledge can have an impact on matter is the beginning of science, not the end of it.  Yet Darwinians always seem to argue that \&quot;science\&quot; will come to an end if that idea is not censored.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Commenting on a random blog by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course he&#039;ll probably say that intelligence and awareness of objective reality emerged gradually through natural selection.  ie: somewhere in the distant past, at some hypothetical moment of critical mass, some dumb primate woke up one day and knew it was a man, and thus started a long process of turning mating grunts into trumpet solos.  Heck, he probably learned that from watching PBS.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2849&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2849&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;,&#039;Of course he\&#039;ll probably say that intelligence and awareness of objective reality emerged gradually through natural selection.  ie: somewhere in the distant past, at some hypothetical moment of critical mass, some dumb primate woke up one day and knew it was a man, and thus started a long process of turning mating grunts into trumpet solos.  Heck, he probably learned that from watching PBS.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course he&#8217;ll probably say that intelligence and awareness of objective reality emerged gradually through natural selection.  ie: somewhere in the distant past, at some hypothetical moment of critical mass, some dumb primate woke up one day and knew it was a man, and thus started a long process of turning mating grunts into trumpet solos.  Heck, he probably learned that from watching PBS.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2849','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2849','Mike','Of course he\'ll probably say that intelligence and awareness of objective reality emerged gradually through natural selection.  ie: somewhere in the distant past, at some hypothetical moment of critical mass, some dumb primate woke up one day and knew it was a man, and thus started a long process of turning mating grunts into trumpet solos.  Heck, he probably learned that from watching PBS.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Who made God?  The &#8220;Law of Causality&#8221; by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real interesting essay on freewill here:

http://www.americanvision.org/article/can-i-be-a-libertarian-without-christ/&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2788&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2788&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;,&#039;Real interesting essay on freewill here:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.americanvision.org\/article\/can-i-be-a-libertarian-without-christ\/&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real interesting essay on freewill here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanvision.org/article/can-i-be-a-libertarian-without-christ/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanvision.org/.....ut-christ/</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2788','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2788','Mike','Real interesting essay on freewill here:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.americanvision.org\/article\/can-i-be-a-libertarian-without-christ\/'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Evolution: A Theory of Change?  The Case of the Octopus. by ¿Evolución o Creación? Fósiles Asombrosos &#171; Logos77&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>¿Evolución o Creación? Fósiles Asombrosos &#171; Logos77&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fotografía detallada del pulpo, con tentáculos, ventosas, y todo. Un sitio web dedicado al DI, Intelligent Design and More, analizaba las consecuencias de este fósil para la teoría de la [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2776&#039;,&#039;&#194;&#191;Evoluci&#195;&#179;n o Creaci&#195;&#179;n? F&#195;&#179;siles Asombrosos &laquo; Logos77&#8217;s Blog&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2776&#039;,&#039;&#194;&#191;Evoluci&#195;&#179;n o Creaci&#195;&#179;n? F&#195;&#179;siles Asombrosos &laquo; Logos77&#8217;s Blog&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; fotograf&#195;&#173;a detallada del pulpo, con tent&#195;&#161;culos, ventosas, y todo. Un sitio web dedicado al DI, Intelligent Design and More, analizaba las consecuencias de este f&#195;&#179;sil para la teor&#195;&#173;a de la &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fotografía detallada del pulpo, con tentáculos, ventosas, y todo. Un sitio web dedicado al DI, Intelligent Design and More, analizaba las consecuencias de este fósil para la teoría de la [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2776','&Acirc;&iquest;Evoluci&Atilde;&sup3;n o Creaci&Atilde;&sup3;n? F&Atilde;&sup3;siles Asombrosos &amp;laquo; Logos77&amp;#8217;s Blog'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2776','&Acirc;&iquest;Evoluci&Atilde;&sup3;n o Creaci&Atilde;&sup3;n? F&Atilde;&sup3;siles Asombrosos &amp;laquo; Logos77&amp;#8217;s Blog','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; fotograf&Atilde;&shy;a detallada del pulpo, con tent&Atilde;&iexcl;culos, ventosas, y todo. Un sitio web dedicado al DI, Intelligent Design and More, analizaba las consecuencias de este f&Atilde;&sup3;sil para la teor&Atilde;&shy;a de la &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Who made God?  The &#8220;Law of Causality&#8221; by mynym</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My feeling about the existence of evil is that there is no other way faith and knowledge of God could ever be known otherwise.&lt;/i&gt;

I do not know if free will exists, whatever freedom and will may mean.  But that is my feeling as well, although we live in a culture where people want mercy without law, grace without judgment and repentance without knowledge of sin it may be that it is all necessary due to the nature of God.  In the age of the Comforter we have grown comfortable but how can mercy exist without &quot;intolerant&quot; justice which defines it in the first place?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2763&#039;,&#039;mynym&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2763&#039;,&#039;mynym&#039;,&#039;&lt;i&gt;My feeling about the existence of evil is that there is no other way faith and knowledge of God could ever be known otherwise.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nI do not know if free will exists, whatever freedom and will may mean.  But that is my feeling as well, although we live in a culture where people want mercy without law, grace without judgment and repentance without knowledge of sin it may be that it is all necessary due to the nature of God.  In the age of the Comforter we have grown comfortable but how can mercy exist without \&quot;intolerant\&quot; justice which defines it in the first place?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My feeling about the existence of evil is that there is no other way faith and knowledge of God could ever be known otherwise.</i></p>
<p>I do not know if free will exists, whatever freedom and will may mean.  But that is my feeling as well, although we live in a culture where people want mercy without law, grace without judgment and repentance without knowledge of sin it may be that it is all necessary due to the nature of God.  In the age of the Comforter we have grown comfortable but how can mercy exist without &#8220;intolerant&#8221; justice which defines it in the first place?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2763','mynym'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2763','mynym','&lt;i&gt;My feeling about the existence of evil is that there is no other way faith and knowledge of God could ever be known otherwise.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nI do not know if free will exists, whatever freedom and will may mean.  But that is my feeling as well, although we live in a culture where people want mercy without law, grace without judgment and repentance without knowledge of sin it may be that it is all necessary due to the nature of God.  In the age of the Comforter we have grown comfortable but how can mercy exist without \&quot;intolerant\&quot; justice which defines it in the first place?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Who made God?  The &#8220;Law of Causality&#8221; by mynym</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Calvin may have a point, but clearly it can be taken too far so that one denies free will. It would seem that if there’s no free will, then there’s no basis for assigning blame.</i></p>
<p>That depends on what you mean by free will.  What most people seem to mean is a metaphoric collection of billiard balls which are set in motion by a ghost in the machine, a supposedly free &#8220;mind&#8221; or will.  Thus we trace back a chain of cause and effect and assign &#8220;blame&#8221;/cause based on this thing called will.  But if a more appropriate metaphor for reality from our limited perspective is a work of art having to do with good and evil then who is to blame for one billiard ball/atom hitting another need not be our main focus, instead the whole picture is the main issue.  In fact, it all may simply be out of necessity if God is good.  Given that perspective we might also recognize that reality may not revolve around man and his supposed will.  But it seems to me that for the most part we would have to admit that we do not know, although we would at least know that a reductionist view supposedly leading back in time to &#8220;gaps&#8221; of free will view is myopic if the whole picture is already willed as a work of art <i>at present</i> as we know it and for all time as well.  </p>
<p>It seems odd to me that some Christians treat the existence of evil as a problem with respect to predestination when Jesus himself claimed that His Crucifixion was predestined.  From the Christian perspective that is the most evil act to have ever happened, yet it was predestined if we believe what He often said.  As I recall at one point Jesus basically said, &#8220;This is predestined but woe to the generation that is destined to do this evil anyway.&#8221;  In other words He knew predestined evil doesn&#8217;t make sense from our perspective but implied that a work of art and a story having to do with redemption and grace may not revolve around our perceptions of it.  It seems to me that He was interested in our perspective and went to the trouble of seeing things from our perspective but ultimately rejected our free &#8220;will&#8221; based perspective (Not my will but thy will be done, etc.).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2762','mynym'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2762','mynym','&lt;i&gt;Calvin may have a point, but clearly it can be taken too far so that one denies free will. It would seem that if there&acirc;s no free will, then there&acirc;s no basis for assigning blame.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nThat depends on what you mean by free will.  What most people seem to mean is a metaphoric collection of billiard balls which are set in motion by a ghost in the machine, a supposedly free \&quot;mind\&quot; or will.  Thus we trace back a chain of cause and effect and assign \&quot;blame\&quot;\/cause based on this thing called will.  But if a more appropriate metaphor for reality from our limited perspective is a work of art having to do with good and evil then who is to blame for one billiard ball\/atom hitting another need not be our main focus, instead the whole picture is the main issue.  In fact, it all may simply be out of necessity if God is good.  Given that perspective we might also recognize that reality may not revolve around man and his supposed will.  But it seems to me that for the most part we would have to admit that we do not know, although we would at least know that a reductionist view supposedly leading back in time to \&quot;gaps\&quot; of free will view is myopic if the whole picture is already willed as a work of art &lt;i&gt;at present&lt;\/i&gt; as we know it and for all time as well.  \r\n\r\nIt seems odd to me that some Christians treat the existence of evil as a problem with respect to predestination when Jesus himself claimed that His Crucifixion was predestined.  From the Christian perspective that is the most evil act to have ever happened, yet it was predestined if we believe what He often said.  As I recall at one point Jesus basically said, \&quot;This is predestined but woe to the generation that is destined to do this evil anyway.\&quot;  In other words He knew predestined evil doesn\'t make sense from our perspective but implied that a work of art and a story having to do with redemption and grace may not revolve around our perceptions of it.  It seems to me that He was interested in our perspective and went to the trouble of seeing things from our perspective but ultimately rejected our free \&quot;will\&quot; based perspective (Not my will but thy will be done, etc.).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on A Naturalistic Fairy Tale-Part XXX by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 03:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the false prophets of science:
http://sppiblog.org/news/what-is-science-without-religion

the must-watch video referred to in the article is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkB5DuveDE&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;2760&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;2760&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;,&#039;More on the false prophets of science:\r\nhttp:\/\/sppiblog.org\/news\/what-is-science-without-religion\r\n\r\nthe must-watch video referred to in the article is here: http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OzkB5DuveDE&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the false prophets of science:<br />
<a href="http://sppiblog.org/news/what-is-science-without-religion" rel="nofollow">http://sppiblog.org/news/what-.....t-religion</a></p>
<p>the must-watch video referred to in the article is here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkB5DuveDE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkB5DuveDE</a>
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2760','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2760','Mike','More on the false prophets of science:\r\nhttp:\/\/sppiblog.org\/news\/what-is-science-without-religion\r\n\r\nthe must-watch video referred to in the article is here: http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OzkB5DuveDE'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>Comment on Who made God?  The &#8220;Law of Causality&#8221; by DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, Mike! As with you, I firmly believe that the nominal, or institutionalized, &#8220;church&#8221; is primarily responsible for many of the views and spiritual confusion of atheism/agnosticism/new-age, etc. Of course, this will not be an excuse on that coming day, but the &#8220;church&#8217; will also be held accountable for its miserable, apostate failure! </p>
<p>You said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Man is only interested in himself if left to his own devices. Because that’s how he was made, after all.</p></blockquote>
<p>By this you mean, man, since Adam, has been made this way (self-absorbed)! Before the fall, of course, Adam was in perfect union with and dependent upon God!</p>
<p>Off the subject, I also wanted to clarify my original comment, here, by stating that any atheist/agnostic who would seek the Lord, in truth and Spirit (in honesty), would find me very open to sharing my life and experiences. Like the Lord, I wish for no man to perish (however &#8220;perishing&#8221; comes about)!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2757','DB'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2757','DB','Good stuff, Mike! As with you, I firmly believe that the nominal, or institutionalized, \&quot;church\&quot; is primarily responsible for many of the views and spiritual confusion of atheism\/agnosticism\/new-age, etc. Of course, this will not be an excuse on that coming day, but the \&quot;church\' will also be held accountable for its miserable, apostate failure! \r\n\r\nYou said,\r\n\r\n&lt;blockquote&gt;Man is only interested in himself if left to his own devices. Because that&acirc;s how he was made, after all.&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nBy this you mean, man, since Adam, has been made this way (self-absorbed)! Before the fall, of course, Adam was in perfect union with and dependent upon God!\r\n\r\nOff the subject, I also wanted to clarify my original comment, here, by stating that any atheist\/agnostic who would seek the Lord, in truth and Spirit (in honesty), would find me very open to sharing my life and experiences. Like the Lord, I wish for no man to perish (however \&quot;perishing\&quot; comes about)!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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